UP Students: Fake Scholars
UP students are not supposed to be called “Iskolar ng Bayan” (Scholar of the Nation). They are “paying scholars”. If you are paying more or less PHP 21, 000, would you really feel that you are indeed a “Iskolar ng Bayan”? Upon enrollment, UP students get in line to pay for their tuition holding wads of cash roughly four times thicker than those from New Era University would pay for. I am sure that we don’t need figures, charts, and statistics to prove the veracity of my claim.
Had it been somebody from PUP, PLM, PNU, TUP, or any state university/college who boasted himself as “Iskolar ng Bayan”, I am inclined to agree. Otherwise, if it’s from UP who claims such, I will maintain the same incredulous revulsion.
Braggart, think twice! Admit it or not, you don’t deserve to be called “Iskolar ng Bayan”… in the true sense of the word.
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@This is me being nice (asshole): PUP is not copying your cheer. For all you know, hindi ka pa pinapanganak sinisigaw na yan sa Mendiola ng mga aktibista from PUP.
@Shy: May point naman yung author. And besides hindi n’yo naman talaga deserve yung “Iskolar ng Bayan” na yan. Mga elitista kayo. Para po sa kabatiran ninyo, sa PUP, 12 Pesos per unit lang kami. 500 pesos lang ang matrikula namin sa isang buong semestre. Kami ang mga estudyante buhat sa marginalzed sector. Starbucks nio lang, matrikula na namin. Sino ngayon ang totoong “Iskolar ng Bayan”?
I think PUP deserves a lot more attention from the government. UP is just so overrated. It’s not the only state university in the Philippines. If PUP can keep its 12 pesos per unit why can’t UP do the same thing? To think that UP generates funds directly from the government. This is sad. Personally, between PUP and UP, I think PUP is really doing this nation a big favor. 12 freaking pesos per unit, that’s like riding a jeepney for a distance of 8 km. That’s totally awesome.
@observer: kaya po mahal na ang tuition, dahil kulang ang pondo na binibigay ng gobyerno sa up. so to compensate for that (lack of funds), the students have to shoulder the burden of paying higher tuition fees. which is really sad. we did try our best to prevent the 300% tuition fee hike (we were so against it), but to no avail. hindi na talaga kakayanin ng up kung hindi magtataas ng tuition fee. siyempre, kelangan din i-update ang mga facilities, and everything. so sad, but true, kawawa naman ang mga future “iskolar ng bayan”, at ngayon, maraming deserving na estudyante ang maaaring hindi na makapasok sa up.
Inggit ka lang! Di mo kasi afford… Gago!
Ganyan talaga pag di pumasa sa UP, bitter! Oh man. I’m guessing you took the UPCAT and did not pass.. you’re sourgraping man. If I were you, I’ll just shut out my mouth and won’t ever blog about stupidity.
Oh man, “shut up” instead of “shut out”. Bobo! Pumasa ka na ng UP ng lagay na yan ha!
@Den How dare you call someone (Ruben Zaragosa) bobo for saying ‘I’d shut out my mouth’? Hahanap ka na nga lang ng mali, sarili mo pa pinagmukha mong tanga. It’s not ‘shut UP your mouth’ katulad ng sinasabi mo. Review your grammar. You need that bad. Now I know why you hate UP so much.
Hmm…I just reviewed my grammar, like what you’ve told me.
“Shut out your mouth” does not sound any better than “Shut up your mouth” (or more appropriate, “shut your mouth,” since the compound verb “shut up” is intransitive when used in the sense “cease speaking”) is in the imperative mood.
Isa ka pa! Pumasa ka na rin ng UP ng lagay na yan ha!
@Den Listen, did I say anything about “shut out my mouth” being right? Read what I said and realized that what I was trying to tell you is that you tried to correct his grammar with something that is wrong. You are too busy trying be a fault finder that do not really understand the context of what one is saying. And review your sentence construction. If a while ago I realized why you hate UP so much, now I realize why you did not get into UP.
You can’t judge someone and call them dumb just because of single mistake. It makes you no better. Calling UPans dumb doesn’t make you any smarter.
Ayan! Pahiya ka no? Nagmamagaling kasi. Tigilan mo na kasi ang UP. Wala kang laban sa amin.
@Grammar Nazi: Thanks for the advice. Sorry for my abysmal ignorance. I just didn’t realize, you’re from UP. So you must be damn better than me. My apologies.
@Buti nga: Oo nga. Nagmamagaling ako. Oo nga. Wala akong laban. Oo nga. Napahiya ako. Thanks.
@Den I guess we just have to stop with the stereotypes. It’s our personality, not the school that defines us
*realize
Yabang ng mga taga-UP! May point naman talaga yung blogger. Taga-UP nga, eh pipitsuging call center agent lang naman pagka-graduate. Booh!
@Izzy kapag sinabing mong taga UP, may ipagmamayabang talaga. the fact that you are a UP graduate is something. People look up to you and immediately, they say you are intelligent. Ok, call center. Personally, I think matindi lang ang pangangailangan ng grumaduate na UP student na nag call center lang. Maybe, he or she is the bread winner of the family and call center yung una niyang napasukan.
Don’t judge a UP student just because call center ang trabaho niya. Nasa pangangailangan yun, hindi sa dahilang wala siyang mapasukang iba na mas maganda. UP kami ano? Tinatanggap kami sa lahat kapag humanap kami ng trabaho. Dahil nga, UP kami. Gets?
@Nellie: Bopols! Kung magaling nga kayo eh di nakahanap kau ng trabaho na related sa course nio… Hindi pangangailangan ang tawag dun, ang tawag dun: kulang sa diskarte. Textbook intelligence lang kasi. Gets?
@Izzy: wrong. Ang mga pumapasok sa call center na UP, karamihan sa kanila ay supporting students atsaka yung ibang mga ilang graduates, NEW graduates yun na habang naghihintay ng magandang nadiskartehan, eh sa call center muna, para may pera na pantustos sa mga pangangailangan kagaya ng perang kailangan sa paghahanap ng jobs, gets? Gets? Kasi, ang mga taga UP ay hindi mga plastik na kunyari mataas ang ere, hindi kukuha ng ganitong kababang trabaho. HIndi ganyan ang mga UP. Ang mga taga UP ay praktikal. Marunong sa buhay, iyan matatalino talaga. Gets?
Marunong pa kami sa textbook, marunong pa rin sa diskarte. Gets mo ulit? Oh, ano payapa ka na? O sige magbulay bulay ka. Gawin mo kaming mga modelo.
meron akong mga kaklase sa UP na nagtatrabaho sa call center habang nag-aaral. Dahil nga self supporting students sila. Para pandagdag sa pampinansyal na gastusin nila.
Sino ka para tawagin akong bopols? I am a graduating BS Physics student from the National Institute of Physics, UP Diliman. My course is one of the most academically demanding course in UP. You do not have the right to question my intelligence. Saan ka ba graduate at ano ang trabaho mo? Ang problema kasi sa inyong mga taga outside schools, may prejudice sa mga UP students. Ayaw tanggapin na kami ang pinakamagaling, eh recognized na talaga kami. search it in the web. UP Diliman is the top performing school (top 1) sa kadahilanang kami ang pinakamataas na porsyento ng pumapasa sa board exams.
Get over it already. UP ang halos magkandarapa ang mga magulang na ipasok at ipinapanalangin na ang mga anak ay pumasa. UP is the premiere university of the Philippines. Nobody can argue that, and ALL people can attest to that truth.
@Izzy: Before you lash out again at me being a physics major and everything, like “Aano naman trabaho makukuha mo dyan?” There are lots of jobs:
1. financial analyst
2. PAGASA
3. meteorologist
4. graduate assistant in UP
5. bank manager (even BS physics fresh graduates DO become a bank manager, especially if you’re an honor student))
6. computer programmer
7. physics instructor at UP or any school
8. math instructor at any school
The list might go on and on and there are lots of jobs out there. Companies are raveling at how good we are. Trabaho ang humahanap sa amin. If I do become just a call center agent, pwede. Kung ako’y mahirap at hindi sapat ang gastusin ko sa school, I might work as a call center agent. Or maybe, kung graduate na ako at iyon ang unang napasukan ko while looking for a higher paying job, eh ano naman kung call center? HIndi kami nahihiya maski UP students nga kami. Kasi nga, ang iniisip namin, kapakanan ng pamilya namin at kung ano maitustustos namin sa kanila. matalino na nga kami, madiskarte pa.
“Bopols!”
Calling me that is very, very insulting. To satisfy your curiosity and before calling me “bopols”, look at yourself. What do you think of yourself? Can you be compared to a UP student and challenge a UP student? It is downright insulting for us, physics majors, the scientists of the country, to be called that way. Let me give you a website:
http://www.nip.upd.edu.ph/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=86
About the Institute
Welcome to the National Institute of Physics, College of Science, University of the Philippines in Diliman, Quezon City. The Institute was established in 1983 by Presidential Executive Order transforming the then Department of Physics of the College of Arts and Sciences. The Institute is the best school of physics in the Philippines and aims to become one of the best in this area of the Pacific.
The NIP is also intended to serve as the national center for advanced manpower training in research and development in pure and applied physics. It is organized as both a special research institute of the Department of Science and Technology (DOST) and a special academic unit within the College of Science of the University of the Philippines, Diliman, Quezon City.
As the national center of excellence for the acquisition, dissemination, and application of knowledge of physics, the NIP serves to provide international quality and undergraduate and graduate education in pure and applied physics, to develop a strong national research capability and tradition in pure and applied physics, and to provide various expert extension services related to the national scientific and technological development.
The Institute offers the following degree programs: BS Physics, BS Applied Physics (with concentrations in materials physics and instrumentation physics), Diploma in Physics, MA Physics, MS Physics and Ph.D. Physics. The baccalaureate degree programs as well as the graduate degree programs are described in this site. On the average, the Institute has about 300 students for all levels in the baccalaureate degree programs and about 50 in the graduate degree programs per year. It also services the physics course requirements of over 1000 non-major students per semester and co-implements the graduate programs in environmental science and materials science of the College of Science and the College of Engineering, respectively.
Aside from their teaching duties, our faculty are engaged in research in the following areas: condensed matter, instrumentation, photonics, plasma, structure & dynamics and fields and particles physics..
Navigating through our website will provide you with a lot of information regarding the specializations of our faculty, staff and students.
Thank you for your interest in the National Institute of Physics.
As you have insulted my intelligence already, read that. And after reading it, mahiya ka naman siguro. We are one of the brightest students in the university. And being called “bopols” is insulting at nakakatawa. Do not compare yoursef to us. It’s insulting to our intelligence to be compared to people like you.
@Izzy: read,
Theoretical Physics Group
National Institute of Physics
College of Science
University of the Philippines
Diliman 1101 Quezon City
THE THEORETICAL PHYSICS GROUP(I belong to this group)
The Theoretical Physics Group (TPG) can be traced back from the Fields and Particles Group, which was one of the three research groups founded upon the establishment of the National Institute of Physics (NIP) in 1983. Its members included Dr Roger Posadas, who became the first dean of the College of Science; Dr Jose Magpantay; Dr Christopher Bernido, who became the first director of the Institute; Dr Lorenzo Chan; Dr Rufino Ibarra, and Mr Danilo Yanga, who was doing his dissertation research at that time. The group was then in turn preceded by the Relativity Group headed by Dr Posadas when the Department of Physics of the former College of Arts and Sciences was just about to be turned into an Institute. The group’s research efforts were on gauge theories, general relativity, Kaluza-Klein theory, nuclear theory, quantum field theory, and stochastic quantization.
In the 1990′s, new research directions started to be taken by the group. Dr Bernido and his wife, Dr Maria Victoria Carpio-Bernido, lead research on the methods and applications of path summation. Dr Danilo Yanga started working on the topics of condensed matter theory and high-Tc superconductivity. In the middle of the said decade, as a consequence of stimulating discussions with Dr Amador Muriel, a visiting professor, several graduate students started pursuing research on the physics of fluids, projection techniques in statistical mechanics, self-replicating systems, stellar dynamics, among other related areas. In recognition of the expanded research thrust of the group, the name “Fields and Particles Group” was no longer appropriate. The new name “Theoretical Physics Group” was then adopted and made official by the NIP Executive Council. By that time, its head was Dr Ludek Jirkovsky.
Today, TPG has 2 full professors (Dr Magpantay and Dr Yanga), 3 associate professors (Dr Eric Galapon, Dr Jose Perico Esguerra, and Dr Caesar Palisoc), 1 postdoctoral faculty member (Dr Roland Cristopher Caballar), 10 graduate and 18 undergraduate students. Dr Magpantay is a former director of NIP; has worked on gauge theory, stochastic quantization, and quantization of constrained and dissipative systems; and currently works on the effects of extra dimensions on the thermodynamics of ideal gases. In addition to his works, he teaches strategic technology planning in the Technology Management Center and is engaged in studying social sector technology planning. Dr Yanga is a former dean of the College of Science and continues his research on the theory of high-Tc superconductivity. Dr Galapon is currently the coordinator of the group and his group thrives on the areas of the development of methods in quantum dynamics, foundations of quantum mechanics, and quantum measurements theory with the emphasis on the issue of “time in quantum mechanics.” Dr Esguerra leads a group that works on topics such as approximation methods in quantum and nonlinear physics, fractional dynamics, non-extensive statistical mechanics, and random walks and diffusion. Dr Palisoc leads a group that studies high energy particle phenomenology. Dr Caballar works on his research on quantum dynamics and quantum chaos.
May naintidihan ka ba sa mga terms na yan? I can guess the answer is wala. Do not ever insult us again. Like we said, “DON’T ARGUE. I’M A PHYSICIST”
@Dennis Relojo:
I came across your page. I read your statements and I cannot help but raise my eyebrows as I finished reading it.
Andami mo na sigurong nabasang comments, but I will comment anyway.
I assume students from New Era University are mostly Iglesia ni Cristo. Are you an Iglesia ni Cristo member? I am an Iglesia ni Cristo (Locale of NOvaliches, kadiwa, purok grupo 10-26 ako), and if ever you are member, please read this:
UP students are called “Iskolar ng Bayan” because we are the elite INTELLIGENT people who passed the UPCAT. Speaking of 21,000 per sem, I can say that 21,000 pesos IS NOT ENOUGH para sa mga tinatamasa naming mga facilities, PhD professors who had their PhD abroad, quality education, and most of all high tech facilities. I am a physics major, and our equipments, like the interferometer, monochromator, and many more were very expensive that only ONE gadget costs 2 million pesos. Therefore, 21,000 pesos that other batches were paying (I haven’t been affected by it. I still pay 6,000 per sem) is still NOT ENOUGH to cover what the University is expending. UP is subsidized by the government.
Two reasons why we are called Iskolar ng Bayan. First, because of our intelligence and we are one of the elite few who are intelligent enough to stay in UP, and second, because 21,000 is VERY SMALL compared to what the University is expending on us.
Ito yung isa sa mga verses na binanggit ng ministro kanina sa pagsamba:
Jeremiah 29:10-12 (New International Version)
10 This is what the LORD says: “When seventy years are completed for Babylon, I will come to you and fulfill my gracious promise to bring you back to this place. 11 For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the LORD, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. 12 Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you.
Please do not attack us, UP students. See? the Lord has plans to give you hope and a future.
Here is another:
Psalm 25:1-5 (New International Version)
Psalm 25
Of David.
1[a] To you, O LORD, I lift up my soul;
2 in you I trust, O my God.
Do not let me be put to shame,
nor let my enemies triumph over me.
3 No one whose hope is in you
will ever be put to shame,
but they will be put to shame
who are treacherous without excuse.
4 Show me your ways, O LORD,
teach me your paths;
5 guide me in your truth and teach me,
for you are God my Savior,
and my hope is in you all day long.
Pray to God and He will guide you on your way to success
Stop comparing yourself to UP students. Instead, rely on God’s plans for you. I think God has moany wonderful plans for you, brother (if ever you are an Iglesia ni Cristo member). Good luck.
Papansin lang tong site na to. Wag nyo nalang pansinin baka maging popular pa. He don’t deserve our time. Sana tumigil na tong taong to.
Sorry. It should be ‘he doesn’t.’ ^^
Si Den Relojo, papansin at bitter. Yung mga taga-UP naman puro kayo kayabangan! Mga hambog! Bottom line: Hindi yung mga pamosong paaralan n’yo ang uukit ng tagumpay n’yo.
Sorry, naging over reacting lang ang mga taga-UP dahil sa senseless na thread na to. Ikaw Jaime masyado kang judgemental !!! Hindi rin magdudulot ng tagumpay ang pagiging judgemental mo.
Senseless pala, eh bakit comment kau nang comment. UP ka ba? Ba’t JUDGMENTAL lang di mo pa ma-spell nang tama.
Senseless si Den Relojo, senseless din ang mismong blog n’ya. Pero sa kabuuan, mas senseless din ang mga comments dito. Puro payabangan.
Hindi ako JUDGMENTAL. Pero totoong overreacting ang mga tao d2. Yung author may napala ba? Meron cguro kasi napansin na s’ya at ang blog n’ya. Yung mga nagagalit sa kanya, may napala ba?
Last comment ko na ito. Ayoko nang makisawsaw sa napaka-walang kwentang topic na ‘to.
@ Jaime
dalawa spelling ng judgemental.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Judgemental
Oo, mayabang kaming mga UP students, pero may ipagyayabang naman dahil admit it or not, this is the fact and the truth: magagaling talaga kami. Yes, magtatagumpay ang isang tao hindi dahil sa school na pinanggalingan niya. Sa pagsusumikap at diskarte iyan.
Pero UP PA RIN ANG INUUNA SA TRABAHO OVER OTHER SCHOOLS. AMININ NIYO YAN.
@UP CS student. On second thought, oo nga, mas sumasaya ang taong ito kapag laging may nagcocomment sa kanya. Kaya mabuti, wag na lang magcomment.
@jaime: bakit pati wrongspelling sinisita mo? Then add the question “UP ka ba?” …are u even implying na kapag taga-UP perfect grammar, perfect spelling and perfect? I should tell you na ikaw mismo, you’re living under the notion na UP people intelehente to the nth power kaya makakita ka lang konting loophole, todo attack ka na.
at hindi kami “puro” kayabangan. You should know that…fan ka yata eh.
@dennis: i don’t think you’re bitter or sourgraping either, nakakapalan din ako sa mga dugong bughaw na nag-aaral sa mga pipitsuging classrooms namin…
@izzy: not all UP grads end up in a call center…kung maka-generalize ka naman… ^__^ Textbook intelligence? I beg to disagree. heck my professors have never required any textbooks, they suggest only references, it’s up to the student to buy and most of the time, photocopies lang ang bubuhay samen. (ngayon plagiarism naman siguro ang aatakihin nyo…)
other schools have required textbooks mula english at filipino hanggang major subjects…dun ka maghanap ng mga kabisote..dun, dun sa mga classrooms na prof lang ang kumakatak, na ang recited lines ng mga estudyante eh straight from the book, kung saan hindi in-entertain ang questiong ng estudyante.
isang advice lang: never, never talk about things know NOTHING ABOUT.
>>i’m ranting about the ways of another school kasi,,, I’m currently enrolled there. so this isn’t a second-hand info…unlike your opinions. and yes I can tell you, iba talaga ang UP.
ps: paki-edit na lang ha? kung may mga typo man at errors ang grammar ko.
Ano naman kung call center napunta ang isang UP grad??? Kabawasan na ba iyon? Ang gulo na ng usapan dito! Mula tuition ng UP, mga never-heard schools, may tungkol pa sa Iglesia, may punahan pa ng grammar, etc.
But I think Dennis deserves a credit! Sobra dami mong comments! Papansin ka kasi.
Medyo di nga lang ako agree sa mga pinagsasabi mo dito.
Taga-UP ako… dati. Hehehe.
75% discount ko sa matrikula courtesy of STFAP, therefore 75% akong iskolar ng bayan… dati.
Nasa call center ako ngayon.
I’m such a lowly creature na pala: fake scholarian na, nasa call center pa.
wow.
….
kung nag-Philo 1 lang sana kayo sa UP, kahit konti, sana alam nyo kung gano ka-weak ang premises ng claims nyo.
kung nag-aral lang kayo sa UP, sana nakita nyo yung pagprotesta ng mga estudyante sa privatization ng sangkayupihan.
kung nag-aral lang kayo sa UP, nalaman nyo sana na hindi kami textbook-dependent…
kung nag-aral lang kayo sa UP, edi hindi kayo bitter.
at kung nag-aaral ka man lang sana: edi alam mo na ang kalibre namin hindi pang pipitsuging call center lang
kaso hindi eh. …..
don, UP got its way to the top not by memorizing textbooks. it is bec we’ve proven how competent graduates and students here are over and over again. when we talk, we speak of something sensible and not just of nonsense na mostly siguro ay hinanapan mo lang ng malalim na synonym to make you sound like the smart-aleck. get a life! or better yet, try it here in UP.!
Ang weird na ng direksyon ng mga comments.
Anyway, @dennis: Maging ako man bitter na nagbabayad kami ng ganung halaga. Ang mahal. Para lang naman kaming nag-aral sa private university. Mas marapat pang tawagin akong “iskolar ng mga magulang ko”.
Pero sa isang banda, kaya naman yata tinawag na “Iskolar ng Bayan” ang mga taga-UP ay dahil sa subsidised pa rin sila ng gobyerno, kahit papano. At kung ikukumpara sa ibang mga State U, mas mataas pa rin ang nakukuhang subsidy ng UP mula sa gobyerno.
At dahil dyan, halos mas magaganda at makabago ang facilities sa UP. At ang faculty ay talagang alam mong “experts in their field.”
Haha. At hindi naman lahat ng mga taga-UP, mayabang.
Uhm, kung di ako nagkakamali, kahit ang mga PUP ay tinatawag ding “Iskolar ng Bayan.” At siya ring tunay.
Sa tingin ko naman, hindi issue kong sino ang tunay na “Iskolar ng Bayan.” Masaya na akong nakakapag-aral ako sa kolehiyo!
Last, sa komentong nakuha mo, sa tingin ko dapat inasahan mo na yun bago mo i-pinublish ang post na ito. Dahil kahit naman mga taga-UP, may damdamin pa rin, at kapag nadehado sila sa post mo, asahan mo nang mag-co-counter attack yan. Lahat naman ng tao, yata. Maliban lang sa mga taong may kahanga-hangang open-mindedness.
There’s nothing wrong if we keep on bragging that WE PASSED THE UPCAT. E sa may maipagyayabang e. We are just really proud for being students/graduates of UP. Around 70,000 to 80,000 apply for UP each year, 10,000 lang ang pumapasa. Meaning 85%+ ang rejection rate, at baka isa ka sa mga nareject na yun.
Hahaha. Sa UP may pinakamaraming nag-aapply at sa UP rin ang pinakamataas na rejection rate. Alam ko naman kung bakit may mga ganitong articles, dahil MASAKIT ANG FEELING NA MAREJECT.
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